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What does it mean to lose in order to win in Jesus' upside-down kingdom? In this episode Maron, Tyler, Barry, and Milton celebrate birthdays and dive into Peter's denial and what it means to follow Jesus when the kingdom looks nothing like worldly success. We explore how Jesus redefines winning by losing, the disorienting nature of the upside-down kingdom, and what it looks like to deny ourselves rather than deny Christ. Plus, hear about D&D mishaps, birthday gifts, Milton's disability advocacy podcast, and honest reflections on sacrifice and forgiveness.

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Barry Rodriguez

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